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The shift to electric cars has massively hurt profitability for many firms, but there are signs of hope ahead

Car making has always been one of the biggest cash-eating industries globally and margins have typically been slim, even in the good times. 

The shift to electric cars is a big fat tick in the ‘bad times’ column, as least as far as global firms' accounts departments go. Profits are being munched as cheap combustion engines are sidelined for expensive batteries. 

However, battery prices having been falling for a while now, with lithium prices in particular having dropped 85% from their peak in 2022, according to data from the International Energy Agency (IEA).

That has brought the average battery pack price down to below $100 per kWh (£77/kWh), “commonly thought of as a key threshold for competing on cost with conventional models”, according to an IEA research document published in early March. 

Prices are expected to drop another $3/kWh this year, according to estimates from research provider BloombergNEF.

Batteries have an outsize influence on the price of an EV, accounting for around 40-60% of the price, depending on which manufacturer you talk to.

So do the price falls mean that EVs are now heading into the black? Not that you would notice.

Of the pure EV companies, only Tesla has shown evidence of profit making. And while that’s a huge achievement, the company has long been propped up by carbon credits, government incentives and reliance on cheap manufacturing in China.

Tesla’s great rival BYD also makes money – the equivalent of £2.7 billion in the three quarters to the end of September 2024, according to its latest published figures. 

However, as well as enjoying similar benefits to Tesla in the form of state subsidies, BYD’s sales last year were 60% plug-in hybrids, with the rest EVs; and while there's no way of telling which contributed more to the bottom line, PHEVs are generally higher-margin, given their smaller batteries.

Few companies explicitly break out EV profit and loss. One that does is Ford, and it’s not a pretty sight. Its Model E division lost $5.1bn last year, a worse result than 2023 by $375 million.

Partly that’s because Ford is spending big on a battery plant as well as developing a new smaller EV car platform at its ‘skunkworks’ division in California.

This year will be no better, with losses predicted in the region of $5bn-$5.5bn, Ford CFO Sherry House told analysts on the company’s February earnings call.

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The Ford figures do show that lower costs, for example on battery prices, helped Model E last year to the tune of $1.37bn. However, the need to stay competitive through discounting wiped out those cost improvements, according to the Ford figures, and added a bit more on top for good measure. That’s likely to be case in 2025 too, House said.

Ford is perhaps an outlier in that it mainly operates in the tough North American market, with its mainstream European EV sales only just getting going.

The big European firms meanwhile are heading into a crunch year, with tougher EU CO2 regulations forcing EV mixes of up to a fifth of their totals. Losing money on those would be hard to bear.

However, Stellantis has said crucial new EV models based on the Smart Car platform, such as the Fiat Grande Panda, are profitable.

“We do make money on those products in Europe, but we don't make as much as we do on ICE [cars],” CFO Doug Ostermann told the recent Wolfe Research Autos Summit.

The penalty Stellantis predicts for selling more lower-margin EVs this year is a full percentage point of margin. Translating that into 2024 figures means a hit of €1.1bn. 

The EU’s recent proposal to allow car makers to comply over a three-year period takes some of the heat off companies like Stellantis. “That’s a huge plus in my book,” Ostermann said.

The Volkswagen Group is another taking a hit on EVs compared with ICE cars, calling them "margin-dilutive". That could mean it makes less on its EVs or they’re outright unprofitable, but either way “that has a significant effect” on profits, CFO Arno Antlitz said on the company’s annual earnings call earlier in March.

The company is making progress. The new mid-sized ID 7 has a “much better margin” than the compact ID 3, Antlitz said without being specific. He also referenced Audi’s ramp-up of EV models, which are expected to have a better margin, given the brand’s ability to charge higher prices.

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The first Volkswagen EV hitting the same profit levels as Volkswagen ICE cars will be the small ID 2 coming in 2026, Antlitz said. “That will be a car with a good margin,” he added.

The miniature ID 1 coming in 2027 costing from €20,000 won’t be so good, but it has a different role to play, one of which to help cars above it.

“It will take pressure from the ID 2,” Antlitz said. “It will be the entry car, and it will also help that the ID 2 and other electric cars will significantly improve their profitability.”

Car makers were initially confident that EV benefits, such as a far smoother drivetrain and lower fuelling costs, would allow them - initially, at least - to persuade customers to pay more and cover the extra build cost over ICE equivalents. But while those benefits do exist, customers' worries about range and charging time cancelled them out, prompting the need for margin-destructive discounting to bring EVs' prices down close to ICE cars'.

“We do not assume price premium on the EV over the ICE [car],” Mercedes-Benz CFO Harald Wilhelm said on the company’s annual earnings call of the new CLA, which comes in both hybrid and electric forms.

The company claims to have brought the build cost of EVs based on its new MMA platform down by 15% to help it reach that price parity.

“A future GLA electric compared with an EQA today will have a definitely better margin, thanks to the cost work we're talking about,” Wilhelm said.

EVs have been getting coming down in price. Back in 2018, an EV was 51% more expensive than an ICE equivalent in the UK, compared with 18% pricier today, according to data from Jato Dynamics.

Partly that’s due to a 11% increase in ICE car prices as cheaper models are axed and companies keep more profitable larger models around for longer.

Car companies are worried that the successful economics of selling bigger ICE cars - especially premium models - with a much higher margin are vanishing in the EV era. 

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“In ICE, the bigger the vehicle, the higher the margin, but it's exactly the opposite for EVs,” Ford CEO Jim Farley said last year. "The larger the vehicle, the bigger the battery, the more pressure on margin.”

As battery prices come down, however, the outsize influence of the battery pack on the price of the car will diminish, which should allow traditional automotive economics to reassert themselves. That is to say the buyer of that big Audi will subsidise the person choosing a small Volkswagen and order will be restored.

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