“This job used to be about grubbing around on the road, looking at tiny specks of stuff,” says Gary Baldwin, a 30-year veteran of Thames Valley Police’s Forensic Collision Investigation Unit, “but that’s only a tiny part of it now.” When Gary started his accident investigation work in 1988, skid marks were his “bread and butter”, but ABS put paid to those. Today, CCTV and dashcam footage are his staple.
“They have absolutely taken over,” he says. “At first, it was just CCTV in town centres and on motorway gantries, but dashcams have become more and more common. You don’t always get the full picture but they have definitely taken on a big role.”
Gary is now retired as an officer but remains a civilian manager of a team of nine, and you really don’t want to be involved in the kind of accidents they look into. “It’s any fatal that’s connected with a motor vehicle,” he says. “From a car falling off a jack while you’re underneath it to a multiple shunt on the motorway.”
In the late 1980s, there were around 5000 UK road deaths a year. Today, it’s less than 2000, but a level of tragedy is “almost inevitable”, says Gary. “The problem is those that are not surrounded by a car: pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclists – the ‘vulnerable road users’. Cyclists still don’t get the message about riding up the inside of big vehicles at junctions. People just don’t understand how hard it is to see out of a lorry.”
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Whilst I agree phone usage in
Whilst I agree phone usage in a car is dangerous, when moving, modern cars with all their touch screen interfaces are becoming just as bad. The difference is though, if you look at your phone whilst stationary at traffic lights, you will get prosecuted, faffing around with a touchscreen is ok though, as is looking at a map book etc, it should be what you are using and when that needs to be controlled and I think car manufacturers need to be held to account with touchscreen useage.
Regarding speed controlled phone usage, this would also render phones useless on a train or coach journey.
AEB
Every lorry that operates on our roads should have AEB fitted, no exceptions. Too many folks have been crushed to death by inattentive drivers.
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....good, and fair point Shrub.
Meet the people...who keep
Meet the people...who keep the roads closed for longer than they actually need to. I've been all over the world, some police close the roads off, some don't. But I've NEVER known a country that keeps the road closed for so long after an accident. Either the traffic police are incompetent or they just like the power thing. The thing is, when I complained once, the policeman said they need to comb the scene in case there's a crime. I pointed out that it was a suicide (bloke was seen jumping off the bridge) and that even if it were a crime, the scene would be contaminated by countless cars that had hit the poor bloke and run over him, so any decent lawyer would get anything thrown out of court anyway!
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You can blame our warped criminal justice system and negative attitudes towards the Police for that. If there is even the remotest possibility that a criminal prosecution will ensue, the Police know that they have only one chance to examine the scene to the nth degree. Not only do they have to investigate what has happened, they also have to consider and fully investigate any other possible scenarios that could have caused the situation, no matter how far fetched they might seem. If they don't, and if they leave even the smallest T uncrossed they run the risk of the CPS dropping the case right at the start, or a smart defence lawyer bringing in doubt about the Police officers competence when it gets to court. Call it back covering if you like but thats the framework the Police have to work in. If it was one of your loved ones who was the victim in one of these cases I'm sure you'd want the officers to do whatever they can to try and prosecute successfully, even if it causes you some slight inconvenience at the time.
Funnily enough, that's
Funnily enough, that's exactly what the officer said to me: 'If it was one of your relatives...'. I appreciate that, but my points are still valid. I'm looking at it objectively, not subjectively. It remains a fact that they keep the roads closed just too long, whatever the reason (and thanks for the info). As I said, in the case I was at, the guy had been seen jumping from the bridge. But that was all dismissed and the police continued as if he had been murdered - which simply wasn't the case. And as I said, the scene was contaminated anyway after countless cars had driven over it. The road was still closed the next morning causing chaos. The police didn't give a sh*t.